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		<title>No, the factory is NOT moving</title>
		<link>http://perarts.com/blog/2009/04/no-the-factory-is-not-moving/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[At work]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was some recent news that seems to be universally misunderstood. The Bosendorfer factory in Wiener Neustadt is NOT moving. However, our administrative offices, currently on Graf Starhemberggasse in Vienna ARE moving to the factory in Wiener Neustadt. The Graf Starhemberggasse facility used to the be the factory but now is mostly empty. The consolidation of space makes perfect business sense. The Salon on Bosendorferstrasse, in the back of the Musikverien will remain our primary presence in Vienna.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was some recent news that seems to be universally misunderstood. The Bosendorfer factory in Wiener Neustadt is NOT moving. However, our administrative offices, currently on Graf Starhemberggasse in Vienna ARE moving to the factory in Wiener Neustadt.</p>
<p>The Graf Starhemberggasse facility used to the be the factory but now is mostly empty. The consolidation of space makes perfect business sense. The Salon on Bosendorferstrasse, in the back of the Musikverien will remain our primary presence in Vienna.</p>
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		<title>Concert pianos don&#8217;t have to be black</title>
		<link>http://perarts.com/blog/2009/03/not-black/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heresy I know but I wouldn&#8217;t have even thought about it unless I saw it. A very good FOB (friend of Bosendorfer) donated a model 225 to an important music department in the Midwest. However he specified that instead of black it be polished pyramid mahogany. As you can see this finish is beautiful and dramatic and quite different from the plain satin black most people are used to.  Now this is just my opinion and I am very very biased but I thought that mahogany piano on that stage was one of the most beautiful things I had ever seen! It was so unexpected but fit so well, it had to be right!! What do you think?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heresy I know but I wouldn&#8217;t have even thought about it unless I saw it.</p>
<p>A very good FOB (friend of Bosendorfer) donated a model 225 to an <a title="University of Oklahoma" href="http://www.ou.edu/alumni/home/news/news_articles/bosendorfer.html" target="_blank">important music department</a> in the Midwest. However he specified that instead of black it be polished pyramid mahogany. As you can see this finish is beautiful and dramatic and quite different from the plain satin black most people are used to.  Now this is just my opinion and I am very very biased but I thought that mahogany piano on that stage was one of the most beautiful things I had ever seen! It was so unexpected but fit so well, it had to be right!!</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<div id="attachment_295" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://perarts.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ok-perf.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-295" title="225 Pyramid Mahogony on stage" src="http://perarts.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ok-perf-300x215.jpg" alt="Pyramid Mahogony" width="300" height="215" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Pyramid Mahogony</p></div>
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		<title>When is it not a Bosendorfer?</title>
		<link>http://perarts.com/blog/2009/03/when-is-it-not-a-bosendorfer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bosendorfer]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ramblings]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[The piano world]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[piano technology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[rebuilding]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Saw a model 200, about 30+ years old, rebuilt by a reputable shop. The original Schwander action had new Renner whippens. The hammers were Renner blues, the bass strings probably Mapes.  While overall the work was of reputable quality, it was a long way from Bosendorfer and had this strange burnt orange, thick lumpy finish on the plate. The real question is, what is it? I would argue that it is not a Bosendorfer anymore since so many of the parts were not original. This flies in the face of common rebuilder philosphy, at least here in the US. This approach comes from the experience with American Steinway which says that a good rebuilder can actually make a piano BETTER than the original. The issue is that assumptions made about one make of piano do not translate directly to another and most of the tweaks that people would take for]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw a model 200, about 30+ years old, rebuilt by a reputable shop.  The original Schwander action had new Renner whippens. The hammers were Renner blues, the bass strings probably Mapes.  While overall the work was of reputable quality, it was a long way from Bosendorfer and had this strange burnt orange, thick lumpy finish on the plate.</p>
<p>The real question is, what is it? I would argue that it is not a Bosendorfer anymore since so many of the parts were not original. This flies in the face of common rebuilder philosphy, at least here in the US. This approach comes from the experience with American Steinway which says that a good rebuilder can actually make a piano BETTER than the original.</p>
<p>The issue is that assumptions made about one make of piano do not translate directly to another and most of the tweaks that people would take for granted in a Steinway actually deteriorates a Bosendorfer. If you own one, you can do with it what you want and there are some great high end technicians out there. You could done one of those wild bridge modifications, change hammers, Stanwoodize the action, add brass weights to the soundboard&#8230;LOTS OF STUFF, but I don&#8217;t know that you would end up with a better piano. Different, yes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to think of a proper analogy to keep from sounding like some corporate stooge and maybe here is one:</p>
<p>A major overhaul of a Bosendorfer by a high end tech, using some of the modifications above, is sort of like a sommelier choosing to take 3 expensive bottles of wine and blending them himself just before serving. Yes, the end result might be better than any of the 3 individual bottles, but many people want to see what the vinyard bottled, what the vinyard was looking for. They&#8217;re looking for the experience the maker intended, not what somebody else, skilled though they might be, thinks is right, just because he (or she) can.</p>
<p>These modification tools are great for helping older instruments, or ones that clearly have dificiences in important areas. This kind of modification is a relative recent development in this business. But doing so has ramifications.</p>
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		<title>Garrick Ohlsson on YouTube</title>
		<link>http://perarts.com/blog/2009/02/garrick-ohlsson-on-youtube/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Garrick is a good friend of Bosendorfer and graciously agreed, at an event at the Museum of Arts and Design in NYC, to give a sampling from his upcoming all Scriabin recital. This was music making of the highest order, in the most wonderful, casual, engaging setting you can imagine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garrick is a good friend of Bosendorfer and graciously agreed, at an event at the Museum of Arts and Design in NYC, to give a sampling from his upcoming all Scriabin recital.</p>
<p>This was music making of the highest order, in the most wonderful, casual, engaging setting you can imagine.</p>
<p><object width="425" height="344" data="http://www.youtube.com/v/wedqPWlxDlY&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/wedqPWlxDlY&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /></object></p>
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		<title>What is the Yamaha S Series?</title>
		<link>http://perarts.com/blog/2009/02/yamaha-s-seriess/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a nutshell, the S series are Yamaha&#8217;s concert level, hand made pianos. Made in a separate factory, these 3 models, the S4 (191 cn, 6&#8217;3&#8243;)  , S6 (212m, 6&#8217;11&#8243;) and CFIIIS  (275cm, 9&#8242;) (pronounced C F three S)  are made using techniques that would be familiar in any high end piano factory. Lots of hand chisels, a relaxed but intense pace working with materials that are chosen with less regard to the price. The result is a piano with much more character, range and overall playing quality with the distinctive sound Yamaha strives for in their concert instruments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a nutshell, the S series are Yamaha&#8217;s concert level, hand made pianos. Made in a separate factory, these 3 models, the S4 (191 cn, 6&#8217;3&#8243;)  , S6 (212m, 6&#8217;11&#8243;) and CFIIIS  (275cm, 9&#8242;) (pronounced C F three S)  are made using techniques that would be familiar in any high end piano factory. Lots of hand chisels, a relaxed but intense pace working with materials that are chosen with less regard to the price.</p>
<p>The result is a piano with much more character, range and overall playing quality with the distinctive sound Yamaha strives for in their concert instruments.</p>
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		<title>NAMM 2009</title>
		<link>http://perarts.com/blog/2009/01/namm-2009/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Namm has come and gone. We did something completely different this year by not showing at NAMM in our customary large booth with nice lighting, Viennese coffee and champagne. Instead we hosted our dealers at the very nice Le Merigot in Santa Monica with the intention of giving them a relaxing break and a chance to talk with them (and take orders) in a more relaxed setting. The result was great..much less work, much less cost and much nicer all around experience. The problem is that my relatively new Canon G9 camera disappeared. Whether or not I just lost it or it was taken out of my room is unclear and,ultimately, not important. But it does mean that a lot of good photos are gone, gone, gone. We showed a revised CS and the new satin lacquer finish. Very well received.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_125" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-125" title="le_merigot" src="http://perarts.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/le_merigot-300x225.jpg" alt="Le Merigot Hotel in Santa Monica" width="300" height="225" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Le Merigot Hotel in Santa Monica</p></div>
<p>Namm has come and gone. We did something completely different this year by not showing at NAMM in our customary large booth with nice lighting, Viennese coffee and champagne.</p>
<p>Instead we hosted our dealers at the very nice Le Merigot in Santa Monica with the intention of giving them a relaxing break and a chance to talk with them (and take orders) in a more relaxed setting. The result was great..much less work, much less cost and much nicer all around experience.</p>
<p>The problem is that my relatively new Canon G9 camera disappeared. Whether or not I just lost it or it was taken out of my room is unclear and,ultimately, not important. But it does mean that a lot of good photos are gone, gone, gone.</p>
<p>We showed a revised CS and the new satin lacquer finish. Very well received.</p>
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		<title>Nice piano!</title>
		<link>http://perarts.com/blog/2008/11/valentina_lesitsa/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m in Charleston SC right now (really great city!) and just heard Valentina Lisitsa play the Tchaikovsky 1 with the Warsaw Philharmonic. Valentina is a big Bosendorfer fan, and the feeling is mutual. But our bank of concert pianos can&#8217;t completely keep up with the vast range of her performances, and we don&#8217;t have a piano near Charleston. So, imagine my surprise to see a shiny Yamaha CFIIIS on the stage. I&#8217;m rather partial to the CFIIIS, having managed the Yamaha US Artist Relations program for 10 years. Oh, and I also own one. I believe that the world needs more than one concert piano and Yamaha has worked very very hard to give the world one, with the resources to put it out where people can see (hear) it. You could call the world of concert pianos a zero sum game (any win for one is a loss for]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in Charleston SC right now (really great city!) and just heard Valentina Lisitsa play the Tchaikovsky 1 with the Warsaw Philharmonic. Valentina is a big Bosendorfer fan, and the feeling is mutual. But our bank of concert pianos can&#8217;t completely keep up with the vast range of her performances, and we don&#8217;t have a piano near Charleston.</p>
<p>So, imagine my surprise to see a shiny Yamaha CFIIIS on the stage. I&#8217;m rather partial to the CFIIIS, having managed the Yamaha US Artist Relations program for 10 years. Oh, and I also own one. I believe that the world needs more than one concert piano and Yamaha has worked very very hard to give the world one, with the resources to put it out where people can see (hear) it. You could call the world of concert pianos a zero sum game (any win for one is a loss for the others).  However, when faced with a monopoly, the game is somewhat different. If any instrument can fight it&#8217;s way onto the concert stage in a consistent and satisfying manner, then that instrument is good for all the ones fighting the same fight. The monopoly&#8217;s domain is slightly smaller and someone else has planted a stake.</p>
<p>This particular Yamaha was extremely satisfying. Plenty of power (remember, it&#8217;s Tchaik 1) with extraordinary tone and sustain in the soft lyrical parts. Yet, still with a sound of its own. Really nice piano&#8230;oh, and played by somebody pretty extraordinary herself!!</p>
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		<title>OK, OK, so I don&#8217;t have the basic part of blogging down!</title>
		<link>http://perarts.com/blog/2008/11/still-learning-blogging/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[June&#8230;November&#8230;not so bad, right? Of course, a lot has happened during this period, but some things can&#8217;t really be talked about&#8230;strategy, plans, that sort of thing. Here are a couple of items: North American Dealers meeting in Las Vegas in August &#8211; big success International Dealers Meeting in Vienna in September &#8211; big success Bottom dropping out of the economy in October.. &#8211; real crap Bosendorfer Piano channel on YouTube &#8211; cool in a nerdy kind of way. (www.youtube.com/bosendorferpianos) Finally I have a place for a lot of the video I&#8217;ve been shooting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>June&#8230;November&#8230;not so bad, right? Of course, a lot has happened during this period, but some things can&#8217;t really be talked about&#8230;strategy, plans, that sort of thing.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of items:</p>
<p>North American Dealers meeting in Las Vegas in August &#8211; big success</p>
<p>International Dealers Meeting in Vienna in September &#8211; big success</p>
<p>Bottom dropping out of the economy in October.. &#8211; real crap</p>
<p>Bosendorfer Piano channel on YouTube &#8211; cool in a nerdy kind of way.</p>
<p>(www.youtube.com/bosendorferpianos)</p>
<p>Finally I have a place for a lot of the video I&#8217;ve been shooting.</p>
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		<title>Visit to Vienna</title>
		<link>http://perarts.com/blog/2008/06/visit-to-vienna/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bosendorfer]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spent a quick 4 days in Vienna in May. Of course, the week before I was there and the day I left were beautiful but while I was there, it was AGAIN WITH THE CRUDDY EUROPEAN WEATHER!! I took my new very fancy HD video camera and spent the Sunday of arrival finding Ludwig Bosendorfers grave in the Central Cemetery. It&#8217;s quite humble, away from any of the big-shot sections. Michael Nissen of Bosendorfer, the current keeper of history there, tells me that that is how it was specified in Bosendorfers will. In fact, the story goes, he wanted only his first name LUDWIG.  It&#8217;s a little frustrating because Carl Schweighofer has a dramatic site, as does the Streicher family. And how often do we hear about either one of those pianos today,eh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spent a quick 4 days in Vienna in May. Of course, the week before I was there and the day I left were beautiful but while I was there, it was AGAIN WITH THE CRUDDY EUROPEAN WEATHER!!</p>
<p>I took my new very fancy HD video camera and spent the Sunday of arrival finding Ludwig Bosendorfers grave in the Central Cemetery. It&#8217;s quite humble, away from any of the big-shot sections.</p>
<p>Michael Nissen of Bosendorfer, the current keeper of history there, tells me that that is how it was specified in Bosendorfers will. In fact, the story goes, he wanted only his first name LUDWIG.  It&#8217;s a little frustrating because Carl Schweighofer has a dramatic site, as does the Streicher family. And how often do we hear about either one of those pianos today,eh?</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 458px"><a href="http://perarts.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ludwig_2.jpg"><img title="Ludwig Bosendorfer grave marker" src="http://perarts.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ludwig_2.jpg" alt="" width="448" height="242" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Ludwig Bosendorfer grave marker</p></div>
<p><img style="vertical-align: middle;" src="www.perarts.com/photos/ludwig_2.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 317px"><a href="http://perarts.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ludwig_1.jpg"><img title="Ludwig Bosendorfer grave" src="http://perarts.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/ludwig_1.jpg" alt="" width="307" height="383" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Ludwig Bosendorfer grave</p></div>
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		<title>Maybe I&#8217;ll say one more thing&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://perarts.com/blog/2007/12/one-more-thing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I worked for for Bosendorfer during the Kimball years.  That, in my opinion, was a much less logical combination than Bosendorfer and Yamaha and there were plenty of jokes (Kimball-dorfers, Bosen-balls). But, in fact, Kimball was a wonderful steward for Bosendorfer, probably a better steward of Bosendorfer than of their own brand. I believe that a large part of our US market presence today is due to the tremendous investment in Bosendorfer marketing that Kimball made 25 years ago. You can accuse me of smarmonisoty (I made part of that up) at this point, but I believe that Yamaha will be a similar steward (and I sincerely hope so for the sake of my career). There is an important aspect to the value proposition, beyond the simple profit and loss accounting, that just makes sense. Yamaha is deeply dedicated to the world of serious pianos and music making and has demonstrated that]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for for Bosendorfer during the Kimball years.  That, in my opinion, was a much less logical combination than Bosendorfer and Yamaha and there were plenty of jokes (Kimball-dorfers, Bosen-balls). But, in fact, Kimball was a wonderful steward for Bosendorfer, probably a better steward of Bosendorfer than of their own brand. I believe that a large part of our US market presence today is due to the tremendous investment in Bosendorfer marketing that Kimball made 25 years ago. You can accuse me of smarmonisoty (I made part of that up) at this point, but I believe that Yamaha will be a similar steward (and I sincerely hope so for the sake of my career). There is an important aspect to the value proposition, beyond the simple profit and loss accounting, that just makes sense. Yamaha is deeply dedicated to the world of serious pianos and music making and has demonstrated that dedication for decades. They are committed to producing the highest level pianos they can. The S series (especially the concert grand) are supremely crafted pianos and Yamaha is backing that up with a substantial investment in very market segment specific marketing. Visit their Artist Services facility on 5th avenue in New York if you doubt the intensity of their commitment. Before you accuse me of being a syncophant, look into my background.  It is their intentions and, yes, their history that, I believe,  makes a critical difference.</p>
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